Should i wait or give up this Virgo guy?

[cancervirgo]

I meet him in bar.he dance w/ my friend,and i dance w/ his friend.but actualy i like him since i saw him,but im shy to dance with him and he not realy approached to me,but his friend did.he gave his business card to my friend and i ask her to gave it to me coz she already have boyfriend.I txt him and he asked how can i have his number?i told him i asked my friend and he asked me out to movie.next day,we went out and i asked him to come to my place,i know at 1st our attratction maybe on sex.but i like him more than that.and couples of days he didnt txt me and he start chasing my friend.im so sad & angry & dissapointed.he being a jerk & lie to my friend about us.i told him im hurt with his act and i told him if im not that kind a girl from bar and im interesting with him not only for fun and i didnt contact with him 4 a while.

but then he txt me and said sorry,didnt meant to hurt me and promise wont play game.i already fallin 4 him,so i meet him again.so far,he didnt txt my friend again,i asked her to make sure.He sometimes sweet & even promise will take me out for dinner,but sometimes he so cold.he can ignore my txt for days.and mostly i txt him first.(theres 2 times he txt me first,but i reject him.is that make him dun want txt me first again?)

when he act sweet i thought maybe he start like me or im wrong?and he know i like him.oh and once time he told me theres no other girl,im happy to hear that even im adoubt he might lie,but well..according virgo men article...virgo guy is honest..is he tellin the truth?

I told him accidently that i like him.he just nodded his head.i dunno whats that meant.I read all virgo guy thing,what he like,what he dislike.i even re-decorate my place for him and he notice it (im queit happy coz he notice the different) and from the article bout virgo guy that i read,they said virgo guy like to take his time n dun like to be rushed.and have to be patience & wait.I dun mind to wait till he realy like me not only 4 sex,but how can i know if he in process?coz i dun want i wait and waste my time then it didnt goin nowhere.i realy already fallin 4 him and blind.i know maybe he just play game and just want me for sex and not realy care bout how i feel 4 him.but sometimes i push myself to believe,he might like me.Gosh..i realy need help and your opinion ,im blind now and cannot think straight.i need to know what he want & how he thingking ( i need virgo guy hel hereee) What do u think bout his act?he is a jerk at 1st but sometimes he is sweet.n one thing that i hate..he can just dissapear for weeks.

Sometimes i realy wanna try again and be more patience with him,but sometimes i just..dunno if what i did is right?i even think its wrong to fallin in love with him.how can i make him understand that i want more from this?

should i wait?or give up?ah btw..its first time i know guy from bar...i never never want 2 know guy from bar.but he realy attract me,well i always get attract buy virgo guy i think...and i realy want him to be mine.theres crazy idea that i just ask him to be mine coz im tired guessing but im worry he will dissapear forever...

Thank u for the reply n read my long Discussion..

[Oceania]

hi cancervirgo.

seems to me like maybe your rushing him a little, trying to move too fast for his possibly slower pace. maybe he's not ready for anything serious with you or anyone for that matter. maybe he's equally as shy as a lot of virgos especially the ones i know are. maybe he's a little scared your showing so much interest, many virgos often dont know how to respond to being pursued. anyways i think in all you should take your time getting to know him better rather than rushing into anything you may regret, that goes for any relationship. you dont know him that well at all. and by the sounds of it, he was initially interested in your friend who is taken. if you did end up together would you really want to settle on being 'second best' compared to your friend in this guys eyes. relationships take time and effort, and more than that, trust. you need to be able to trust this guy above any amount of physical attraction, cos at the end of it all if there aint no trust there might as well be nothing. do go changing your lifestyle for him just yet, or indeed redecorating your home. you shouldnt feel the need to compromise yourself for some guy you dont even know who may very well not be interested. offer him a date (a non-romantic friendly date if at all possible, like going bowling or something fun but not too intense) but keep it light hearted and focus on the fun, not the chase. you will see him for his true colours if he knows he can relax around you. also i read that virgos dont really like feeling pressured into relationships. heres some tips for your virguy:
he is fussy about who he sleeps with and probably isnt all that much into flings.
he falls in love very slowly checking a prospective partners credentials as he gets to know her. above most things he values intellect and honesty, and any displays of over-emotion can leave this guy feeling cold.
he sets exacting standards for a long term mate, which may well include how useful the prospective partner will be too him. he wants someone to be an asset to him and his equal. even someone who has skills he lacks will seem ideal for him.
he is discriminating on his choice of partner.
when dating a virguy it is probably best to have a plan (they love planning) such as a nice clean establishment like a nice restaurant, where the service is efficient (they love efficiency too). this may sound boring but anything that stimulates him mentally will never be a bad thing so how about a trip to a science museum, artillery museum, anything with historical artifacts or something which will make him think alot (that way you'll also have a lot to talk about rather than the main focus being a potential relationship)
I date a virguy, thats why i know these things also my brother is one and they have a billion things in common. and most of the things my virgo likes (especially the scientific stuff) i love too....and im a pisces!
Best of luck cancervirgo

[cancervirgo]

Hi Oceania,

Thank u 4 ur reply,i realy realy appreciate it.yes i know im too rush but i realy like him & hard too control hahaha...and thank u 4 ur advice,i'll remember all n i might try to find some event in museum and try ask him out :P

well..its nearly 1 week he didnt reply my txt,n the last txt that i sent is the stupid one.i said it will be nice if he care bout me coz i care bout him alot..well no reply n i just say sorry of my silly..no reply.now..i wont txt any again..just wait for him to txt me..if he want too..i hope he will txt me thoo :(

coz last time when i txt him i said it will be nice if he reply my txt,well..he did reply tho...

and about my friend...i dunno what he think but i assume he just being a guy that try to get all girls...so..i dun realy worry bout that even im angry at first.but i think if he want to meet me(we meet 5-6 times already)so he might interesting with me,u reckon?coz at first he didnt talk too much or asked much bout me,but recently on last time we meet,asked some small thing and he said im beautiful(which make me fly hahaha) and called me baby when we made love.he never do that be4.well..i thought maybe theres some improvement,u reckon?

tell me more bout virgo guy,since ur brother n ur bf is virgo.i realy need to know everything bout virgo.cos the more i read all virgo thing in astrology,its sooo truee n sooo him.

[the eternal daydreamer]

Cancer needs it's sense of security, but Virgo is discriminating in choosing a lover. He is capable of giving it, but they need time. They have to feel like they are making an investment in a lover.

Read up on Virgos, so you can understand how they work... and even your own compatibility with Cancer. It'll help.

[cancervirgo]

Hi danae..Thanks for the reply.

I already read almost all a good virgo article that i can google internet haha..and yes i read all compatibility for cancer and virgo.its realy a good one but if i can have him.

Well..like what Oceania said i have to be patience and not too rush..

They have to feel like they are making an investment in a lover--->How do i know if he put investment on me or not?

[Oceania]

Hi cancervirgo

so you wanna know more bout virgo? hmm the virgo guys i know have a lot in common, but i guess for everything they have in common they'll probably have something which isnt, so be careful how much you invest into astrology, its meant for guidance.

the virgo guys i know can be quite shy if they dont know people and they take there time in developing trust in others cos they're all too aware of how it can go wrong. there very sensible in that aspect (well most are) .

i do however have a totally different experience of virgo to you it would seem. i met mine at work while i was dating someone who mentally and physically hurt me. i didnt really talk about it too many people, but this virgo was different. we started talking randomly one day at work (at the time he fancied me but i didnt know it then), and we both had the same interest in music and film/tv as the other, which got us off on a really good footing to start with. and our conversations just sort of escalated from there really. so we talked daily in work, but because i was in a relationship at the time (and i honestly dont think i fancied my virgo then lol) a healthy friendship blossomed and all we did was talk about loads of things. stuff which made us laugh, our favourite bands and why we liked them, you know just stuff like that. anyway, as conversation developed over the weeks, i revealed to him i was in a relationship (i think he was a little disappointed when i told him). but i then explained how i hated the relationship i was in because my now ex was a little on the nasty side, had quite a violent possessive streak in him. so i explained this to my virgo friend cos i felt i could trust him (virgo's are very trustworthy). so he helped me as this was going on. one night i was out with my boyfriend when i bumped into the virgo. my bf got very jealous of how well me and the virgo were getting on and physically went to hit me in a bar (he got kicked out needless to say). and after that my virgo just wanted to take care of me, so everyday he'd text me to see how i was, he was my shoulder to cry on. only as the months went by and i was gradually getting over the hurt my ex bf put me thru, my virgo admitted his feelings to me and said he'd always felt them. so he asked me out and i knocked him back instantly cos i was still very hurt after what my ex put me thru, even tho i instinctively knew me and the virgo would be great together, cos we naturally just clicked and nothing had ever felt as good around anyone else than it did him. weeks later i plucked up the courage to ask him out this time, and the rest as they say is history, we've been together ever since.

virgos are extremely helpful and like being of service and that was apparent when he helped me get over my violent ex completely by always being there for me, and even when i still had bad days as an effect of the abuse i went thru, my virgo still looked after me. he treats me like a queen, cos he knows we've found something so completely special nothing else compares. and it took him a lot of courage to ask me out (like i said virgos are very shy and dont really like over-dramatised displays of affection). but once he's got you, he's completely committed and faithful and nothing is too much for him to do for the one he loves.

yea it may seem virgos are unsure of themselves and to an extent they are. but deep down they want someone who will be equally as loyal to them as they are. they want someone they can talk about all sorts with. music, the arts, films, technology (they're big on that), science, world affairs, politics, history, even to some extent philosophy. there huge on conversation, but not just conversation for the sake of it, its gotta be deep more often than not (remember this is the sign of the intellect). there not really fans of sloppiness, laziness, or anything which suggests a person cant be bothered doing things properly as this is also the sing of the perfectionist. the virgo's sign is that of the maiden and the sign is brought into play in late summer as harvest season is approaching. think of the person who collects the food for harvest and separates the wheat from the chaff and thats virgo to a tea. everything they have or do has to be of some use to them, they need to have a purpose in life, to feel wanted and appreciated.

a warning about virgo's is perhaps what is viewed as their negative traits (i personally find it funny), they can be razor sharp to the point where all it seems like they are good for is criticising. it could be a crticism of you, the way you dress, the people around them, the government, their workplace. somehow things may never seem good enough to a virgo and they can seem like they're constantly moaning. its not that they have a nasty streak (cos most dont), it that they have very high ideals and no one or nothing ever seems to fully reach virgos ideals. bear in mind its only cos they want everything to be 'perfect'. when my virguy starts complaining about something, i either agree with him cos i think he's got a point or i 'soften' his edges cos i have a tendency to think of more humanitarian reasons why things are like they are, or how things could be improved in a better way than my virgo could concieve of. virgo's seem to like people who think for themselves and offer light on situations that the virgo hadnt quite picked up on themselves. in that way it is very easy to outsmart the virgo, which is never a bad thing cos they like people to have a good amount of intelligence.

hope iv given you enough insight to some of the general traits of a virgo, and hope your relationship works out with yours, cos they make fantastic partners once dating.

good luck

[cancervirgo]

Hi Oceania,Im glad u go through all that bad experience w/ ur ex.and im glad u found ur virgo guy,u deserve it.I realy hope me and him can ended up like u both hehehe

Thank u 4 ur heaps information,i think i have to write it down and make a note for me to read everyday haha...well..he still not reply my txt..i just wait now.hopefuly he didnt plan to ignoring me tho.

I am loyal and truthful with my bf(ex now) n i just wondering how i can tell him in a good way?the thing is i like to know him more and be friend,but he hardly contact me and we meet like every 2 or 3 weeks.i like to spend more time w/him so we can get to know each other more,i want he get know me more too so he can see that im not only girl that he know from bar and he can see i realy like him.but how can i,coz virgo guy like they own freedom as well?and he also busy already with his job and his study and he lovee hang out with his friends..party or race car etc...im confused bout this too.coz we not working together like u and hardly for me to meet him.

I guess the only thing that i can do now just wait if he contact me again and see what happen and grab each opportunity to get know him more.

[Oceania]

Hi cancervirgo. Thanks for your comments.

i guess you gotta spell it out for him then. altho i have read that virgos dont know how to handle being pursued, i also read somewhere they like strong women. so let him know how you feel but dont go into too much detail. i guess at the end of the day people will do what they feel is best, so if it doesnt work out, there's plenty more fish in the sea as they say. cancer and virgo are supposed to be pretty good together tho, so dont give up just yet.

ask him out, call him so your not waiting for text messages the whole time.

[cancervirgo]

Ehm..i should call him,u reckon?I never called a guy tho hahaha...im so nervous and i even scared to dial the number.txt for me is more save.isnt is too much if i call him after he didnt reply my txt for 10 days now?

and im worry if i call him,he will think im stalking him hahaha...and he will think im annoying?

Well..I already told him that I like him and i want he care bout me more.and he should know that i do care about him from my action for him.and what else u think I should let him know,coz u said Dont go into too much detail?

U meant strong woman is that meant woman that not give up easily chasing him?haha..Im wonder what he think bout me..stalking girl or strong girl?haha...

Thanks 4 ur reply...

[Oceania]

lol sounds like you got a lot going on up in your head. I guess when i say strong girl, i mean a woman who holds her own, if that makes any sense. if you appear to be to clingy he may do a runner. hmmm what do you have in common with the guy? if you can find something you both enjoy, it'll make calling him to ask him on a 'casual date' (tho dont tell him that) a whole lot easier. other than that i dont really know. i have a lot of virgo friends male and female (probably summat to do with me being their polar opposite, pisces) and i find each one intersting in their own right. the main thing they all have in common is that there all really sound, down to earth, sensible people. and the thing i learnt most is that i will do or say the things they could never think of, cos there far too logical, so in a way i provide a lot of fun for these people, but they keep me grounded. i think we balance each other a lot. so like i said if you have things in common with him, or even if you posess a trait that he lacks (in a good way) you shud be fine. i reckon you shud call him, but when you do just be kool, dont be nervous, speak with confidence and he'll probably take you up on your offer.

oh yeah something i found, but dont believe everything you read, its just a good thing i found:

Cancer and Virgo:

This is a sexually compatible pairing that produces sex, love and possibly marriage. Cancer is a water sign and Virgo is an earth sign. These two friends will bond for life on a sexual, spiritual and romantic level.

They will be both friends and lovers and find one another physically alluring and sensual. They might even remind each other of someone they had a crush on long ago. Virgo is supposed to be the virgin, but Cancer will laugh when they hear this. Virgo will be highly sensual in bed and Cancer will be elated. Cancer has been looking for you, Virgo. There is an element of surprise when these two signs merge in a relationship. There are also surprises and mysteries for both parties in this association. Cancer and Virgo are considered “lucky” when together. Cancer rewards Virgo loyalty and together they can build a home and a family.

They will remain lifelong friends if the sexual relationship ends. Children will enter the picture eventually over time.

x

[cancervirgo]

Haha...yeah i know...i have try to not too clingy..but u know..its typical Cancer tho...I'll clingy to the guy that I like hahahaha...

Well I call him today at lunch time,but he didnt answer and he didnt bother to txt or call me back.so virgo isnt it sigh...I just wait i think...maybe another week..i'll try to call him again.

Ah Thank u for ur Interesting article,good information hahaha...

[Eric]

Hello cancervirgo,

I think Oceania is right about the virgo liking "strong woman", and being virgo myself ... hem ... maybe I can explain :-)

Personnaly I like to be in a relation with someone I can consider as equal to me, I mean intelectually. For instance, I like her to be able to stand her ground, have her opinions, and can "fight" for them. If she can take the lead when she fancies it, take the decision or make a point. That's all good. That doesn t mean she has to control me :-) bcs if she tries that, it will spin out of control fast :-)
But simply, I really beleive that there is no reason the guy should always be the strong element in a couple.
Apparently a woman who can act like that and that I see as intelligent, independant, ... is called a "strong woman"... mmh ... well, I just see a very interesting person.

I made a couple of looong posts a few weeks ago about virgo, have a look at them if you want a bit more information.

Eric

PS. I m impressed by how much Oceania knows about virgo, I bet she must be one of these "strong woman" :-) :-)

[cancervirgo]

Ah..virguy hahaha..yupp Oceania Help me alot to know more bout virguy :))

One thing that i dun understand is why virguy dun bother to txt or call back.im not too clingy to him realy. i txt him mostly on weekend,sometimes in weekdays in normal txt,normal amount of txt and i even apologize when my txt little bit silly(txt that i said i want he care bout me more) I always reply his txt even he txt me on 5 am.but he not even bother to reply my txt when i said i feel so low coz my granpa just passed away back in my country.Its not cold,but its selfish rite?

i dun txt/call him again now.tired of waiting n guessing will he respond?n he makes me feel he just playing games.is that one of virguy personality to keep silence n ignore even he dun like the girl?i meant he can just say it to me hey i dun think im interested or i think its not working out,so i can move on.and actualy its a normal attitude to at least say im sorry to hear that(the bad news)and asked if im ok.I realy dunno why he didnt give me any respond but i realy sad and dissapointed.

Well I am strong girl hahah..too bad he dun want gimme change to let him know me more.I came out from bad bad relationship as well last year.its the hard one,but im survive.

I always attracted to virguy but i never have relationship with them.start wondering if cancer-virgo realy the best comptability?coz to start relation with virguy is so complicated hahaha..

Dun want think bout him now.i dun want everything is all about him.