Anaretic Degrees and Planets Changing Houses

[misskitty]

I noticed that a bunch of the outer planets are transiting in the last few degrees of their respective houses in my chart. Tr Pluto is about to leave my 5th house, tr Neptune is about to leave my 7th, tr Saturn is about to leave my 2nd, and tr Uranus is in the last 2 deg of my 8th.

In my Progressed chart, my prog AC just went into Virgo, prog Venus is in the anaretic degree of Gemini, and prog Uranus retrograded back to the anaretic degree of Libra in my 4th.

All this put together, the anaretic degrees and the outer planets changing houses... is this why I am going through such a transformative period right now and am having to face all of my inner "demons" at this point in my life?

tr Pluto is about to square the cluster of planets in my 9th house. I hope things do not get worse before they get better. :( The only ray of hope I have is that most of these planets will have moved out of the anaretic degrees and/or into the next house by April 2009. Can I expect some relief then, even though by then Pluto will be squaring my Merc/Jupiter/Sun/Chiron in the 9th? That square should be about growth of spirituality and ideals, and I can handle that compared to all of the relationship upheaval of the past two years. Although it should affect my relationships somewhat because the 9th house planets trine my Neptune in the 5th. Hopefully it won't be as traumatic as tr Pluto in the last degrees of my 5th.

[ZoraidaGitana]

Miss Kitty,
I think I have very similar transit patterns to you ( namely Pluto, Neptune, Saturn). Also my progressed asc is now Virgo.

I think I have undergone a fair bit of transformation/inner change etc, as well as some real ups and downs and trials/mid-life crisis etc. I have a lot of my natal planets in the fifth house ( moon, mercury, Sun, south node). Pluto has been difficult, I agree..Uranus has been transitting my eighth and ninth house- and that has been very stressful.


I guess in answer to your question, perhaps a lot of this movement accounts for a lot of transformation. Part of me will be relieved when these planets enter a new house. It feels like dregs draining from a container.....

[misskitty]

I will definitely be relieved when they move into less precarious positions. This is a very uncomfortable time in my life, and nothing is certain. For someone who always knew who she was and where she was going, this is excrutiating.

How have you experienced a progressed Virgo Ascendant?

[ZoraidaGitana]

Reflecting on it , Misskitty, ( My leo ascendant is 8 degrees 42 min' - based on presumed time, since my mum remembers my birth being after 7pm, but before 7.30pm- I guess she was done by then!! It's based on a 7.15 pm time ) I think my progressed Virgo asc has shown up in wanting to do more voluntary work and being of service ( perhaps over the years, it's been more activated. I've been doing voluntary work for many years, then had a break.

Last year July, I started voluntary work again, this time, at a theatre, which i thoroughly enjoy).

Perhaps having the progressed Virgo has made me want to be more detailed and accurate in how I write- so I've been studying some writing courses, this year: both creative writing and article writing and I have been writing a lot more, focusing on presenting facts, ideas ( dance, culture, health, etc) .

I'm not sure about anything else. I have been toying with the idea of re-reading stuff on complementary health, maybe taking it up a serious study in the future- so maybe that 's a progressed Virgoan asc thing.

And i've been busy representing my colleagues, more than ever, this year, as their union rep , at work- so maybe that's another thing: being of service, or is that the aqua venus....

I'm not overly organised , as in being so neat, tidy and precise- Virgoan ( that's never going to happen with a Sag sun, moon and mercury, and even with a capricorn mars -though it helps- and pluto trine mars !!!) so I can't say it's made me meticulous!

What about you??? I'm really curious- fellow Leo asc! Have you joined leo asc group. It would be great to have you on aboard, if you're not there, already.



me, too- I'll be relieved when the transits get into another house..

[misskitty]

I have been wanting to do more volunteer work as well. Luckily I live in New Orleans, so there is plenty of opportunity for it!

I did not even know I was a Leo Ascendant until recently. I had gone all this time thinking I had corrected my chart for daylight savings, and I did it wrong! So I had always thought I was a Cancer rising. Nope! At first I was very upset because I didn't feel I connected with the Leo Asc at all, but I am beginning to understand that the Sun in my chart is strong, but there are aspects to it (like squaring Saturn) that really complicate the expression. I am much more reserved than a typical Leo Asc I think, and I have always suffered from some degree of social anxiety. Not fitting of a Leo. But apparently these are the complications that my Chiron and NN says I should work through. Maybe I will be more "Leonine" after I do that!

[ZoraidaGitana]

Woa, Miss kitty- I can SO relate to what you're saying. When i found out I was Leo asc, I was incredibly upset- and yes, like you I thought I was Cancer rising. I thought "the astrologer's got it wrong. Maybe I'll just ignore it and do away." I just couldn't understand it, as I was a lot more quiet and more shyer than I am now- but like you, my Sun is probably a lot stronger than I thought ( 5th house) and I guess that's where a lot of the creativity and love of art/culture comes from, perhaps ( along with 4th house Neptune).


my moon and mercury squares saturn, and my saturn is quincux to the asc- so like you i am a "quiet" leo asc

( but it still comes out , with the bright colours and the hair!!! etc, etc)- yes those do influence the exterior- but , Miss kitty, that leo is always going to be there and I appreciate it more- and in fact, I've learned not to listen to the stereotypes of leo but to focus on acquiring the best of leo traits- that's a worthy goal in itself:

appreciating your own light and bringing it out in others, because under the asc, there is fear, anxiety that you might not live up to that image.


I've underrated my moon sextie venus and mercury sextile for most of my life, and i've just come to really care about them both, because I feel that will enhance the Leo asc and help with the saturn contacts, as well- but as you know, Saturn is not as bad as it sounds. It helps you mature- always a good thing.......... ;D


Good luck with the volunteer work. it's so awful with what happened. No one hear can believe that the aftermath could evolve in such a developed country as the US. So, i wish you well, and it's admirable to do it.....

[ZoraidaGitana]

The cancer rising feeling may have come from what i now realise is a Grand Water Trine. I had no idea that i had this, or even understood this, to be precise ( as an astrologer who did my chart, mentioned it, and I hadn't a clue what she was talking about).

I'm still trying to find out what this trine means to me: Neptune in Scorpio, trine Saturn in Pisces and Part of Fortune in Cancer. I'll have a think. Maybe that's why I felt I must have had a watery ascendant. Do you have prominent water planets?

[ZoraidaGitana]

How is Jupiter in Aquarius treating you? I'm thinking it might lighten the load of any distressing transits at present..

[misskitty]

Jupiter will go into my 7th house on January 12th. It is crossing my Descendant now. It is part of the trauma of all of the transits in the final degrees of houses/signs in my chart! It just got through squaring the jumble of personal planets in my 9th.

While in the 6th, I did eperience very good prospects with my job, and I even got an original research project off the ground that I hope I can eventually turn into my Masters Thesis. I am interested to see what its transit through my 7th will bring. That is supposed to have good benefits for partnerships, and after the trauma of Pluto completing his transit through my 5th, that would be a welcome change.

[misskitty]

appreciating your own light and bringing it out in others, because under the asc, there is fear, anxiety that you might not live up to that image.

Yes, I feel like that is one of the main lessons I am meant to learn right now! Embracing my inner Leo and stop thinking of myself as a wallflower! I think I always thought that in order to be outgoing you had to have a wide circle of friends, and I just never had. It is very difficult for me to put my trust in people in order to let them close enough where they could potentially hurt me (one of the reasons that this thing with the Virgo has hurt so bad) But I am learning that it is not the number of friends and trusting too many people, it is all about quality of friendships and letting those vaulable people who are worthy of trust INTO my life.

I would imagine that a Grand water trine would make you especailly sensitive to assessing the social environment around you, but I have found that can sometimes be a hinderence because we are so busy overanalyzing and sometimes misjudging others intentions that we hold back too much. My holding back comes from, I think, my air Moon and Mars, and how it affects me is that I am so busy studying and analyzing people that I forget I am also an active participant. Like a classic social scientist, we are trained to observe, not affect. This fits my personality so much that I guess that is why Anthropology is a natural field for me. So I have to seperate that tendancy from my social life and bring out that inner Leo!

[ZoraidaGitana]

I hear what you're saying!

Yes, the grand trine in me, picks up atmospheres like an antennae- intuitively. I am open, so I wouldn't say I mistrust, but I can get bad vibes from some people- and I am usually right. I understand about holding back: sometimes it's fear and feeling fear , while, being healthy , in that it can protect us from danger or breaking one's neck!- can definitely hold you back and stop you from acting...

Fear/over analyisng : coming from the same stable!


I wouldn't imagine you as being a wallflower- you sound strong and feisty and someone who know s their own mind.

Yes, bring out that inner leo. Does it trine with your Sun, by any chance.

I recently have started to embrace that inner leo more: I have got both mercury and moon trining the ascendant, and whereas I used to feel so down about my dreaded Saturn square moon/mercury- I realise I've got those trines to the ascendant and the sextiles to venus ( moon and mercury sextile venus) to boost my shy Leo. i'll nver moan about wanting to change my chart, again!


Speaking of changing houses: Pluto is So slowly moving through the dregs of the fifth house. One of my best friends has just been telling me, how sometimes it's best not to listen to the advice given in dating books etc- as nothing is cut and dried as a book manual.


While Pluto in the fifth has certainly helped me to break away old habits/thought patterns etc on romance etc, I've learned that listening to your intuition and core can do wonders. Final lesson to learn here. I kind of dread pluto in the sixth: just wonder if that means power struggles at work or deep-seated issues at work that need uncovering> Don't think I have the energy to fight Machiavellian bosses. LOL.

How long will it be- I wonder? Do you know when Pluto will eventually transit your sixth- and then Jupiter in the seventh ( I am literally counting the days.........)

[misskitty]

We DO have very similar transits going on! Pluto just left my 5th, and Neptune in the 7th... maybe it is the combination of those two that make it so difficult.

Pluto is officially in my 6th house now, and I have been thinking about changing the way I take care of myself. How long until Pluto is out of your 5th? Watch out for those last few degrees!

[ZoraidaGitana]

Oh, Miss kitty,

I'm starting to worry about these last degrees now.....! But I think I have learned and experienced so much and in a sense, the earlier days of these transits, in hindsight, were so dark...... I sense that the worse is over.

Are the last degrees a real pain in the neck??

I subscribe to astrology.com, and I get the transit wheel update almost every day. I'm checking to see where the transits are: I am relieved Pluto's in capricorn to be honest...... I shall have a look today and report back on waht I see.... ( just to keep myself sane.....) xx